Hi All,
So I usually dont post about 40k, but I've been having a few games vs Ryan's bikermarines lead by captain douchenozzle (who is less douchey now that he dropped the powerfist) and I've actually been enjoying 40k.
Weird I know. The purist inside me hates that I've been listhammering at work and thinking up sneaky things I can do with orks.
Anywho. My listhammer and in game experience has resulted in the following list:
Bikerboss: Pklaw, attack squig, cybork body
Mega armour Mek
15 lootas
5 Nobbikers with cybork bodies
painboy
waagh banner/big choppa
3 pklaws
2x20 shoota boyz: nob with Pklaw/'eavy armour, 2 big shootas
10 grotz
3x1 deffcopta with t/linked bigshoota and buzz saw
Battlewagon: Deffrolla, Kannon, 4 bigshootas (complete with all gunz on central turret with 360 degree LOS)
1500pts
So for the unaware this list has a rather obvious tactic. 15 lootas + megamek ride in battlewagon. Megamek gives the lootas "slow and purposeful" = battlewagon can move 6 and the lootas can still shoot normally. Megamek can not shoot his t/linked shoota and on a 4+ repair a hull point.
There are other things the list does. Megamek becomes a tarpit due to 2+ armoursave so is really useful when battlewagon is threatened. Being opentopped he can pop out and charge threats.
The Nob bikerz and warboss are the super wing of the list. They ride shotgun with the battlewagon clearing things out. Deffcoptas have a similar role, but spend more time hunting tanks.
The rest of the troop selection is purely "tax". vs some things 2x20 shootaboyz is really useful...vs other things they are there to be a huge distraction. Grotz are the secret weapon. bs4 means they can sneak up and do nothing...
I have a love/hate relationship with orks this edition. Snap fire and overwatch are awesome...but orks so rarely hit I find myself celebrating any hits. Hence why trying to maximise effective shooting. deffcoptas and nobbikers t/linked shooting is the most effective shooting I have....everything else is just noise...well the lootas hurt when they hit. I find that I play by picking off the things I can and ignore/hide from everything else. Not very orky I know, but it seems to work.
There are some sneaky things the orks can do now though. The slow and purposeful lootas above, but also (until FAQ'ed) bomb squiqs hit "vehicles" on a 2+ = hit flyers on a 2+...I guess they are just really good at throwing them in the air at the right time! I havnt put tankbustas in my list because I want to only use models I already have, but they would be an auto include if writing list from scratch.
Anywho enough musing. Other than getting a bikerboss (currently using attack bike as proxy)I am very close to having the list all painted (and then to think up a decent basing scheme for them!) So I hope to get good enough to go to some events next year. My biker boss will most likely be a converted trukk to make it obviously different (+ real warbosses dont shoot their own gunz-they get someone else to do that for them!)
I hope to have some pics up soon of the army.
The Brush of Doom is my attempt to show case my armies and painting progress + try get into the habit of actually making battle reports.
Wednesday, 29 August 2012
Saturday, 25 August 2012
Guess I should post CTA write up
Call to Arms 2012
So an exciting Call to Arms. It was my first time
attending, but Warhammer is Warhammer-venue don't change that!
As per my previous post I thought I would give the High
Elves a run around since the woodies had their turn last event and the Empire
are sitting on the paint table.
My list was rather unsubtle:
Dragon Prince with re-roll 2+/4++ GW and other
trickster's shard
lvl2: high, scroll
BSB: GW, Dragon armour
38 Spears: FC-flame
2x10 Archers: M
26 Whitelions: FC-amulet of light
26 Whitelions: FC
2 Eagles
SO dragon, 52 Whitelions, steadfast spears and chaff
(sorry archers).
My Plan going in was to use ASF to my advantage as either
a Jarl Axe wall, or get my Berserker mode on and Panzer strike the lines.
GAME ONE: Orcs and
Goblins - blood and glory
An interesting list full of monster goodness.
Warboss on foot (general)
warboss on Wyvern
lvl2 orc
lvl2 gobbo
30 something normal boyz board and sword
30ish big uns 2hw-flame
2 gobbo chariots
6 trolls
Giant
Aranknarok
doomdiver
Very excited to come up against this list game 1. For
starters I played Nick at the last event and got a very unsatisfying draw
(thank you warping lvl4...), but also because he was a laugh to play-so always
good to go in with a game I will enjoy.
My plan was to dragon the big spider then pull across to
the blocks, spears into trolls, archers shoot off chariots, eagles get
doomdiver while whitelions get everything else.....and that is pretty much
exactly what happened. Only thing that was different was that his Wyvern
decided to come play with the dragon...warboss and wyvern dead in 1 round of
combat. Wyvern had taken 1 wound from archers (woot!). Prince finished it off
allowing dragon to stomp all over warboss. I lost 1 whitelion block who got
caught with an awkward clip on the big uns (to allow other block to have enough
spare bodies to also kill giant as well as the boyz). Dragon was 1 turn late
saving the day, but oh well, 20-0 to me.
Game two: Warriors
of Chaos-random deployment.
Right on to game 2. I had a pretty favourable deployment.
I was up against:
usual disc lvl4
BSB with stuff
lvl1
block of Tzench warriors hw/sh (lvl1 here)
block of nurgle warriors halberds (bsb here)
7 knights
2 warshrines
hellcannon
The warriors stole turn 1 and backed up (dwarf like play
if I ever saw it!). I rushed forward. Dragon aimed at the knights (dead). Dragon
then got hit by hellcannon killing the Prince-though the dragon carried on. Whitelions
were a bit more cautious. The tzench warriors presented a tricky target that I
had to pull out of position. Dragon bluff meant I got a frontal charge with 1
unit while the dragon jumped after the warshrines. The other whitelion unit
wore a couple of gateway wounds (not a good day when stopping treason to let
gateway through...) and were mindful of where the nurgle warriors would appear
(had hopped into building). I took out the tznch guys over a couple of rounds
and then hit the 2nd warshrine (dragon got stuck on 4++), broke it and went straight
into hellcannon (dead). The Nurgle combat was a bit more tricky as I didnt rate
my Whitelions to win it (re-roll hit on 4's, 2's to kill vs hit on 3's, 2's to
kill and more attacks). However I brought my Spear block+ BSB up to give
re-roll stubborn...which I failed, ran 4, got run down and exposed the spear
flank to the (depleted) Nurgle warriors. Lucky this was LATE game as my spears
held until the very last turn to break (killing BSB in process due to new flee
rules), but escaped. All he had left was Nurgle, BSB, and lvl4, which was
enough (having lost 1 Whitelion unit and BSB + eagles) to pull it back to a
13-7 win to me.
Game 3: Demons of
dumb: diagonal deployment.
So Tom and I met again on the field of battle...meaning
both our wizards would be dead/lvl0 by end of turn 2 as per usual... his list
was:
Billy the blood thirster: KB, 7 attacks (probably usual)
3+, scroll
lvl2 tznch: loremaster light and scroll
2 korn heralds with 3+, flame sword thing (yeah-duplicate
gifts were not comped...)
2x29 bloodletters
2x5 furies
2x3 flamers (last hurrah for pre Wdwarf update)
2 blood crushers
2 fiends.
Basically my list without having to pay core tax and a
5++ on everything and more chaff.
I opted for the Jarl Axe wall approach and castled up
(deployed first) only 1 eagle failed to arrive. I picked the corner that meant
due to a building his force would be split coming at me. My plan was spears and
1 block and 1 eagle handle 1 part, and dragon, whitelions block and Eagle deal
with thirster approach. This was a game where I feel I out played Tom, but it
didnt pay off. My biggest mistake was not deploying spears 5 wide (instead of
my usual 7). Basically I killed all chaff except for 1 blood crusher. Pinned
Billy on a unit of whitelions (overrun so combat in his turn), flanked with
dragon...prince dies to KB (had to make 4 KB wardsaves....passed 3) and billy
takes 2 more rounds to kill the dragon. Meanwhile bloodletter block come up
rear of dragon/into whitelion flank and that collapses. On other flank I pinned
Bloodletters on spears and used combat reform to get Whitelions for a flank
charge....nope. Spears fluff 22 attacks...Bloodletters roll AMAZING and I flee
(with BSB out of unit this time!) get run down so whitelions not so safe to
charge! In the end I lost 4-16, but a good game none-the-less.
Game four:
Bretts-watchtower.
Neil had opted to try not using HKB on a hero and brought
the Greenknight. His list was something like:
Greenknight
2 lvl2 (1 on foot)
BSB
2 Paladins (one with charmed shield, the other with
dragonbane gem).
unit of 10 knights errant
2x8 Knights of Realm
2 smaller Realm knight units
10 skirmish archers
5 Yeoman
3 Peg knights
Trebuchet
I put 10 archers in the tower to get closer shooting on
the treb! Basically this game was defined by
1) dragon hiding from trebuchet...because'
2) it rolled a hit every time it fired (even when
misfiring to explode)
3) 2+/5++ is amazing vs s6-I struggled to kill knights
4) 38 spears was a really, really good idea as too many
bodies to lose watchtower
5) greenknight is really, really, really annoying
6) at least once a tournament leadership tests have to be
failed on mass with a "high leadership" army.
SO yeah-greenknight couldnt kill all the spears (even
after wearing a hit from treb), dragon only killed 1 Paladin in a challenge as
spent most of game hiding then got trapped on Green knight. Whitelions let me
down by failing to kill a single Paladin "speed bump" that resulted
in it getting wiped out. Other Whitelion unit failing panic test taking it out
of the game for 1 turn = couldn't come to the rescue in time. They eventually got 1 unit of knights, some peg knights, and heroicly saw off a last turn charge. BUT when we added
up points I had lost 130 more than Neil, but with Watch Tower it became a 12-8
win to me. MISSION FTW!
Game 5:
Lizardmen-battleline.
Going into this game I needed an 18-2 or better victory,
and Sam needed to get tabled for me to break into top 3. So I draw Bo's Lizards
that looked a little like:
Slann-discard my 6's to cast, gets extra dice when
casting, loremaster life, BSB
lv1 skink priest on Engine of the Gods
Scarvet on foot with stuff
38 Saurus hw/sh
2x10 skink cohort with javelins
2x10 skink skirmishers with blowpipes
20 templeguard-banner of discipline
2x5 chemeleons
2 salamanders
1 salamander
So I actually managed to out deploy someone with fewer
drops....Basically I deployed Dragon on my left = all the poison goes over
there...then swing round to right flank for double whitelion, dragon panzer
strike on his lines...while the poison only has archers (and lvl2) to kill. I
breezed through the chaff which I felt wasnt used as well as it could have
been, but I did have overwhelming force + flying monster, so it was never
really going to be an issue. My big "break" was when the Slann (with
throne up btw) miscast and killed 15 templeguard = all magic got diverted to
keeping them alive instead of dwellering me (ie what I thought was going to
happen for 6 turns). I got a massive strike on him that won it for me. Spears
into flank of templeguard with dragon in front (did nothing for a round while
everything was t8, but then finished it off when that all went away) and
whitelion sandwich on the saurus (in front and flank). I was ONE kill short of
breaking steadfast on 1st round. Then again I had allocated 8 attacks on to
scarvet and 3 onto champ (both died), so didnt really help with that. Engine
came crashing in, but died to 10 axes and the saurus got finished off.
Adding up the points I won 18-2...looking across to Sam
he got 5 points...
End Result
The results were tallied and I came 4th...Sam beating me
by 1.95/100 points! After the event Pete told me that my army came 2nd in the
beauty pageant (Sam's Orcs coming first), so a very, very, very good outcome
for me. My best ever placing at a 2 day event (not counting Homecon where I
also came 4th last year). Hopefully my Empire can do the same come Skitterleap!
Thoughts on list:
The list worked as intended. I was a little
miffed at it bouncing off the demons, but there was not much else I could have
done. This list (and the event in
general) has cemented by belief that reliance on magic is not a game
winning proposition. The only game where my mage was very,
very, necessary (and ultimately let me down) was vs the Bretts where I needed
to kill the trebuchet to free up my dragon-however I worked around that, took
the hits and played the scenario to win. Something to hurt Billy was nice, but
wouldn't have helped turn the game when it fell to me not bussing the spears
and 4KB wounds on Prince.
Sunday, 12 August 2012
Hot off the Painting Table!
Hi All,
I don't usually do up to the minute painting updates, but my Empire army FINALLY has a mounted general to lead them valantly into battle.
Meet Larry the Lector:
As you can see, Larry is sporting all the "must have" fashion items in the Warhammer world this season.
There is the Runefang sword if Larry decides to be a GTM that also doubles as a Sword of Anti Heroes if the occasion demands it
He can be seen wearing a crown if he feels particularly stubborn, but also kinda looks like there is a dragon on it if he opts for some Elven inspired heargear.
His shield is rather "charmed" or "enchanted" one could say
Note the White Cloak he has drapped around his shoulders
Larry is borrowing the BSB Barry's horse, but his will look exactly the same. They will stand out with their entourage of choice the Blazing Suns Inner Circle Knights.
I don't usually do up to the minute painting updates, but my Empire army FINALLY has a mounted general to lead them valantly into battle.
Meet Larry the Lector:
As you can see, Larry is sporting all the "must have" fashion items in the Warhammer world this season.
There is the Runefang sword if Larry decides to be a GTM that also doubles as a Sword of Anti Heroes if the occasion demands it
He can be seen wearing a crown if he feels particularly stubborn, but also kinda looks like there is a dragon on it if he opts for some Elven inspired heargear.
His shield is rather "charmed" or "enchanted" one could say
Note the White Cloak he has drapped around his shoulders
Larry is borrowing the BSB Barry's horse, but his will look exactly the same. They will stand out with their entourage of choice the Blazing Suns Inner Circle Knights.
Friday, 10 August 2012
Call to Arms 2012 The Dragon Lion Roars!
Righty,
So the deadline for list submission has passed, and since I'm having a crazy Friday night watching Stargate (all the motivation needed to start a TombKings army...) I figured I would post my list and some sweet pics of it.
So my list:
Prince: Moon Dragon, GW, Armour of Caledor, Vambraces of Defence, Other Trickster's Shard
lvl2: High Magic, Scroll
BSB: Dragon Armour, GW
10 Archers: Musician
10 Archers: Musician
38 Spears: Full Command-flame banner
26 Whitelions: Full Command-Amulet of Light
26 Whitelions: Full Command
Eagle
Eagle
So a rather unsubtle list full of fun and a wee bit anti meta. I'm in no position to be pushing for a place at Masters, so I figured I would get my fun on and run a *shock* dragon at a tournment.
Naked BSB is a little bit of a concern, but I'm not too fussed as his job is not really to kill stuff in combat.
The games I have had with the list have been really fun, and are usually determined by whether my Whitelion blocks can kill enough to make back their points. The dragon is an amazing support unit for the Whitelions and the spear "hammer".
Anywho the pics!
Prince for when the Dragon dies converted out of IOB swordmaster standard bearer and champ, IOB griffon rider and chariot rider arms, BSB converted out of chariot rider legs, prince kit and Phoenix Guard champ, IOB mage with no conversions as it is a fantastic model.
Flaming spears with Freehand banner
The token archer "core tax"
My Eagles converted from IOB Griffonsb (bad Greenstuffing hidden by paint job!)
The most bad-ass Dragon there ever was!
Whitelion unit number 1
Whitelion unit number 2 with rank filler and converted banner bearer. My goal for the week coming is to finish the banner with a design and glue it in place (currently sitting on a pin!)
So yeah, that's my army-all painted (except for 2nd banner), all based, and magnetised and ready to go! I started the High Elves as a hobby project, so I'm more excited by painting them then I am with using them on the table-not helped by their fustrating limitations despite pwning in combat! In saying that I have come to enjoy using them over the last year and I am aiming for a top 1/2 placing and hopefully being the best placed High Elf player at Call to Arms...
If I wasnt so determined to take the dragon (cos it's cool!) I would have put the Prince on an eagle and used the spare points to kit up the BSB with reavor bow and added 2 RBT's for some ranged goodness or some chariots/dragon princes. Possibly the more "sensible" option, but meh-I'll leave that sort of list to another day.
Looking forward to a weekend of Warhammer and all the goodness that entails.
So the deadline for list submission has passed, and since I'm having a crazy Friday night watching Stargate (all the motivation needed to start a TombKings army...) I figured I would post my list and some sweet pics of it.
So my list:
Prince: Moon Dragon, GW, Armour of Caledor, Vambraces of Defence, Other Trickster's Shard
lvl2: High Magic, Scroll
BSB: Dragon Armour, GW
10 Archers: Musician
10 Archers: Musician
38 Spears: Full Command-flame banner
26 Whitelions: Full Command-Amulet of Light
26 Whitelions: Full Command
Eagle
Eagle
So a rather unsubtle list full of fun and a wee bit anti meta. I'm in no position to be pushing for a place at Masters, so I figured I would get my fun on and run a *shock* dragon at a tournment.
Naked BSB is a little bit of a concern, but I'm not too fussed as his job is not really to kill stuff in combat.
The games I have had with the list have been really fun, and are usually determined by whether my Whitelion blocks can kill enough to make back their points. The dragon is an amazing support unit for the Whitelions and the spear "hammer".
Anywho the pics!
Prince for when the Dragon dies converted out of IOB swordmaster standard bearer and champ, IOB griffon rider and chariot rider arms, BSB converted out of chariot rider legs, prince kit and Phoenix Guard champ, IOB mage with no conversions as it is a fantastic model.
Flaming spears with Freehand banner
The token archer "core tax"
My Eagles converted from IOB Griffonsb (bad Greenstuffing hidden by paint job!)
The most bad-ass Dragon there ever was!
Whitelion unit number 1
Whitelion unit number 2 with rank filler and converted banner bearer. My goal for the week coming is to finish the banner with a design and glue it in place (currently sitting on a pin!)
So yeah, that's my army-all painted (except for 2nd banner), all based, and magnetised and ready to go! I started the High Elves as a hobby project, so I'm more excited by painting them then I am with using them on the table-not helped by their fustrating limitations despite pwning in combat! In saying that I have come to enjoy using them over the last year and I am aiming for a top 1/2 placing and hopefully being the best placed High Elf player at Call to Arms...
If I wasnt so determined to take the dragon (cos it's cool!) I would have put the Prince on an eagle and used the spare points to kit up the BSB with reavor bow and added 2 RBT's for some ranged goodness or some chariots/dragon princes. Possibly the more "sensible" option, but meh-I'll leave that sort of list to another day.
Looking forward to a weekend of Warhammer and all the goodness that entails.
Sunday, 5 August 2012
Hobby round up
The last couple of weeks have been a little quiet on the hobby front as I found myself between painting projects, and a little distracted by the release of 6th ed 40k.
My limited exposer to the 40k meta/scene etc has given me a fresh enjoyment of 40k. Not enough to pursue it too much, but enough to get back into the odd game/possibly attend an event or 2. However, I am no fan of allies/fortifcations: I prefer to cover my weaknesses with tactics...not by adding a runepriest and fortress of redemption to every army! Hopefully the tournement scene agrees (and keeps the points of games in the 1500-1750 range) and stops the game becoming a farce.
Anywho. FANTASY!!!!!
I have inherited Ben's display shelf in his move to Australia, and I have begun displaying my armies on it-very exciting. I also used it as an excuse to paint up some of the High Elf stuff I have avoided due to never, ever, ever, ever seeing a situation where I would take over the usual suspects (ie my seaguard). This lasted all of 2 nights when I got to painting the gold. Now my High Elf gold is actually mitharil silver washed with the old GW sepia wash a few times. Sadly, I ran out of this and bought some of the new stufff from GW. This was the first time i have been disappointed with the new paints. The wash (or whatever they are called now) refused to layer, was shiny, and pooled in a way the old stuff didnt.Thankfully I got some of the Vallejo sepia wash as a stop gap and it does the job of replicating gold fine. One of my Wlion units has been done with it, however I was a little disappointed with its performance on the demigriff skin (hidden with other washes).
My Helfs will be rocking it at Call to Arms. I wont reveal my list JUST yet. I think the list I am using will be really fun and hopefully a little anti-meta in an interesting way.
The woodies have been sitting there looking cool. I'm happy with my latest list. ETC has been fustrating as usual because it has flooded the net with lists that a) are 2600pts, b) are designed for a game that I dont recognise as WHFB 8th ed c) have very little relevance to how I want to operate. There have been some interesting lists (fav is the one with all the eagle nobles), but of little value to my exploration of 8th with them.
The Empire is still a work in progress. I have been assembling knights with the Blazing Sun upgrade pack to be my ICKS, kit bashed my mounted general, and started painting my plastic stank.
My latest Empire list refinment is looking like this:
Alector: Bsteed, Ha, ent sh, SAHeroes, Wcloak, Pofool 218
lvl4: light, scroll 225
BSB: Bsteed, FPA, sh, SoM 129
Engineer: la 66
Captain: Pegasus, FPA, ch.sh, relicblade, dbane gem 131
13 ICKS: FC-steel 390
10 xbows: sb 100
5 archer detach 35
5 archer detach 35
5 Knights 110
2 cannon 240
3 Dgriffs 174
3 Dgriffs 174
Hellblaster 120
Stank 250
2397
Main changes are:
1) switch Runefang GTM to archlector: GTM was great, but the knights were acting as an expensive delivery system + he had no protection other than 1+ as. With the Archlector I achieve a few things. Sword of anti heroes gives me a way to counter character buses (or at least deter them from engaging), whitecloak adds protection to the unit by forcing all bad guys in b2b with the Alector to suffer -1 to hit. On top of that is hatred to make the ICKS more killy + obviously the prayers to add complexity to my magic phase.
2) dropping the RICK Rollers: Just another expensive knight bus. Stank does the "hold up stuff" better, and dgriffs are killy enough + with a unit of vanilla knights I can still rush a flank.
3) adding stank-see above.
4) return of the Captasus: ie the K'daai Destroyer. But also there to do other stuff too! I enjoy using flying characters in Empire lists and bringing him back means I get to use my cool model + adds some interesting dynamics to a rather unsubtle army.
5) standard in the xbows: mainly for Blood and Glory-but also because I have a cool converted banner for that unit. My army is a little light on conversions for paint scores, and with the removal of the bounce-lit flagellants a little light on paint score in general! I have 10 xbows all painted up with bounce lighting from the tourch banner to help bring my paint score back up a bit for what is usually my most competitive army.
My hope is to get the Empire ready for the event after Call to Arms which is the last 2400pt event in Welly for the year. Hopefully Neil will be running the 1200pts event (possibly my favourite outside of Homecon) which will see another run for the Highelves. The Woodies will have to (sadly) stick to fun games for the time being. They can pull of wins when I need to, but dont get big enough wins to be competitive in 20-0 system. ETC'ers will disagree, but they get a points boost (and i think a VP's boost) to compensate.
My limited exposer to the 40k meta/scene etc has given me a fresh enjoyment of 40k. Not enough to pursue it too much, but enough to get back into the odd game/possibly attend an event or 2. However, I am no fan of allies/fortifcations: I prefer to cover my weaknesses with tactics...not by adding a runepriest and fortress of redemption to every army! Hopefully the tournement scene agrees (and keeps the points of games in the 1500-1750 range) and stops the game becoming a farce.
Anywho. FANTASY!!!!!
I have inherited Ben's display shelf in his move to Australia, and I have begun displaying my armies on it-very exciting. I also used it as an excuse to paint up some of the High Elf stuff I have avoided due to never, ever, ever, ever seeing a situation where I would take over the usual suspects (ie my seaguard). This lasted all of 2 nights when I got to painting the gold. Now my High Elf gold is actually mitharil silver washed with the old GW sepia wash a few times. Sadly, I ran out of this and bought some of the new stufff from GW. This was the first time i have been disappointed with the new paints. The wash (or whatever they are called now) refused to layer, was shiny, and pooled in a way the old stuff didnt.Thankfully I got some of the Vallejo sepia wash as a stop gap and it does the job of replicating gold fine. One of my Wlion units has been done with it, however I was a little disappointed with its performance on the demigriff skin (hidden with other washes).
My Helfs will be rocking it at Call to Arms. I wont reveal my list JUST yet. I think the list I am using will be really fun and hopefully a little anti-meta in an interesting way.
The woodies have been sitting there looking cool. I'm happy with my latest list. ETC has been fustrating as usual because it has flooded the net with lists that a) are 2600pts, b) are designed for a game that I dont recognise as WHFB 8th ed c) have very little relevance to how I want to operate. There have been some interesting lists (fav is the one with all the eagle nobles), but of little value to my exploration of 8th with them.
The Empire is still a work in progress. I have been assembling knights with the Blazing Sun upgrade pack to be my ICKS, kit bashed my mounted general, and started painting my plastic stank.
My latest Empire list refinment is looking like this:
Alector: Bsteed, Ha, ent sh, SAHeroes, Wcloak, Pofool 218
lvl4: light, scroll 225
BSB: Bsteed, FPA, sh, SoM 129
Engineer: la 66
Captain: Pegasus, FPA, ch.sh, relicblade, dbane gem 131
13 ICKS: FC-steel 390
10 xbows: sb 100
5 archer detach 35
5 archer detach 35
5 Knights 110
2 cannon 240
3 Dgriffs 174
3 Dgriffs 174
Hellblaster 120
Stank 250
2397
Main changes are:
1) switch Runefang GTM to archlector: GTM was great, but the knights were acting as an expensive delivery system + he had no protection other than 1+ as. With the Archlector I achieve a few things. Sword of anti heroes gives me a way to counter character buses (or at least deter them from engaging), whitecloak adds protection to the unit by forcing all bad guys in b2b with the Alector to suffer -1 to hit. On top of that is hatred to make the ICKS more killy + obviously the prayers to add complexity to my magic phase.
2) dropping the RICK Rollers: Just another expensive knight bus. Stank does the "hold up stuff" better, and dgriffs are killy enough + with a unit of vanilla knights I can still rush a flank.
3) adding stank-see above.
4) return of the Captasus: ie the K'daai Destroyer. But also there to do other stuff too! I enjoy using flying characters in Empire lists and bringing him back means I get to use my cool model + adds some interesting dynamics to a rather unsubtle army.
5) standard in the xbows: mainly for Blood and Glory-but also because I have a cool converted banner for that unit. My army is a little light on conversions for paint scores, and with the removal of the bounce-lit flagellants a little light on paint score in general! I have 10 xbows all painted up with bounce lighting from the tourch banner to help bring my paint score back up a bit for what is usually my most competitive army.
My hope is to get the Empire ready for the event after Call to Arms which is the last 2400pt event in Welly for the year. Hopefully Neil will be running the 1200pts event (possibly my favourite outside of Homecon) which will see another run for the Highelves. The Woodies will have to (sadly) stick to fun games for the time being. They can pull of wins when I need to, but dont get big enough wins to be competitive in 20-0 system. ETC'ers will disagree, but they get a points boost (and i think a VP's boost) to compensate.
Sunday, 22 July 2012
Jumping on the Battle Wagon...my first game of 6th
First Game of 6th 40K
Hi all.
Just a wee break from my usual Fantasy schedule to give a
rundown of my first game of 6th 40k. I've given the rule book a wee bit of a
read, but most of my "rules knowledge" has come from the
forums...good thing my opponent Ryan is a keen 40k tournament player and has a
few games under his belt...so I pretty much did whatever he said!
My list (net-list fiends please take note):
Bikerboss: PKlaw, attack squig, cyborg body
Megamek
10 Lootas
10 Lootas
5 Nobbikers: cyborg bodies
painboy
3
Pklaws
Waagh
Banner-'uge choppa (well 'uge banner that hurts when smacked around the head!)
20 Shoota Boyz: Pklaw nob, 2 Big Shootas
20 Shoota Boyz: Pklaw nob, 2 Big Shootas
10 Grots: Runtherd
Rokkitcopta
Rokkitcopta
Battlewagon:
Kannon,
4 Big Shootas, Deff-rolla
To be honest, this is not that much different from my 5th
ed list-except I have no trukks, have dakka'ed up the wagon and added more
lootas.
Ryan brought to the battle some Marines (I think Orks
call then Beakies)
Captain on bike: 2+ armour, 4+ invul, relic blade,
combiplasma
5 bikes: 2 melta, multimelta attack bike, combi flamer on
captain
5 bikes: 2 melta, multimelta attack bike
4 bikes, 2 plasma, multimelta attack bike
2 Typhoon landspeeders
2 Typhoon landspeeders
Vindicator
Vindicator
Thunderfire cannon
A rather scary list. Lots of s10 to ignore my FNP,
typhoons of dumb, bikers for speed and the thunderfire cannon to ignore the
cover saves that keep Orks in the game.
We rolled the "relic mission" (1 objective in
centre of board worth 3 VPS that can be picked up and moved by troop choices,
first blood 1VP, kill general 1 VP, unit in opposing deployment zone 1 VP) and
diagonal deployment. This is great as it
lets me put down the outhouse objective (the only roll of toilet paper left in
the sector) to give the battle a deeper meaning.
Ryan deployed first and I failed to seize the initiative
...+ there was no night fighting at the beginning...yay for me...
Ryan had a few options to get first blood. He opted to
try pound one of my boyz squads into the ground. Thunderfire cannon did most of
the work (along with frag-tastic typhoons), but the mob survived, but were no
longer an effective unit (except for last minute objective run...). One of his
bike squads makes a ballsy move and rushes to block my lootawagon from
rampaging and avoids the deff-rolla by charging the 2nd boyz squad-gotta love
fearless when wounding on 6's and the Nob cant kill a sergeant in combat (1
hit, failed to wound...). 40 Overwatch shots didn't kill anyone, but I did kill
the attackbike in combat.
My turn starts with me realising that Lootas are also
just like Orks in combat...and have a megamek in tow who can rip apart the
bikers...so they hop out of the battlewagon and charge into the combat...bikers
wiped out and first blood to me. My shooting phase starts with lootas vs the
captain's bike squad...rolled a 1 for # of shots woot. Rokkitcoptas stay
hidden. Nobbikers get shots on one of the typhoon squads and take a hull point.
Dakkawagon lets rip on the other typhoon squad and also gets a hull point with
the bigshootas (all main turret mounted with the Kannon for max shooting
awesomeness).
It had to happen sooner or later...the vindicators draw
LOS to the bikers and open up. 1 (thankfully) scatters, the other hits, I fluff
cover save, and kills 3 bikers (waagh banner, 1 Pklaw, and painboy-didnt see
the point of it when all threat shooting was s10). The 1st boyz mob takes more
hits and it shot down to 4, but they stick around. The captain's squad sees an
opportunity to kill the lootas and moves up to charge. shooting kills 2, I
overwatch (another 1 for # of shots) killing 1 = fails charge!!!!!
So ball in my court-megamek moves up to engage the
captain's bikers (yay for power weapons now being ap3). Warboss and the 2
remaining bikers rip apart a vindicator. Lootas + dakkawagon+remaining boyz+
megamek shoot at the captain's bikes...nothing. Other lootas and rokkitcoptas
shoot at the landspeeders and take 1 out. In combat I do a wound to captain,
captain does a wound back and we hold.
Meanwhile the grots start advancing on the objective...
Remaining vindicator misses the nobbikers, nobbikers pass
all coversaves from rest of army shooting at them (well all but 1 as warboss
wears a wound) and a plasmagun over heats and kills the rider! Megamek and
captain continue to miss each other.
Warboss + nobbikers vs 2nd vindicator = dead vindicator.
Lootas FINALLY roll something that isn't a 1 and only 3 can draw LOS = only 1
more shot than if all 8 had shot, but + rokkitcoptas = dead landspeeders.
Ryan's turn = hide remaining bikers and landspeeder moves
up to kill the grots=kill all but 1 + runtherd. My turn = dead landspeeder,
nobbikers have objective (with solo grot + runtherd too!) and megamek gets
another wound on the captain.
We call the game there
as there is no way Ryan can get the objective back.
So a win to the Orks! and a 100% win record for me.
Things I liked:
Vehicles in Combat-because
hull points stripped before roll on table...warboss with 6 attacks can hull
point a vehicle to a wreak before having to worry about rolling on table BOOM!
Overwatch-didn't
win me the game, but won me the momentum as it stopped the captain's charge.
Combat in general-
a whole lot easier to do with the step up system.
The amount of
terrain I placed on table- I'm a "more the merrier" kind of guy
when it comes to terrain placement. Not a fan of defined terrain lines in 40k
because it means you can actively NOT engage in it. My approach is more along
the lines of Mordheim = more cover and harder for vehicles to dominate/sit back
and gunline ftw. Still works well in 6th. Then again, if I played a marine army
I would probably like less terrain!
Pre-measuring-works in fantasy and worked here as well.
Random Charge range-same as above.
We didn't get a chance to try the focus fire as most
shooting was through cover, so cover save was always 100% of unit. Also didn't
get to try slow and purposeful lootas in dakkawagon :( oh well when they
remember to shoot more than once they are awesome anyways.
So a successful first outing...all I need to not proxy
anything is 1 more box of lootas and 1 box of boyz + convert up my warboss on
bike a bit better than current (was proxied with an attack bike) and the army
is "done".
Thursday, 5 July 2012
Game 3 of 3-Greenies on Green.
Game 3 of 3. Woodies vs Orcs: Watch Tower.
Sadly my camera battery decided to die, so only managed
to take three pics. Even more unfortunate as I think it was the most
interesting game of the three...though I would say that given that the woodies are my favourite army to use (yes, I'm a sucker for "bad" armies-sold my Ogres the second the new book came out).
Anywho the list I was using:
lvl4: scroll, ICI, beasts (flock of doom, amber spear,
wild form, curse)
BSB: abane, HODA
18 GGuard: FC-flame
14 GGuard: M, SB (learnt from tournament to have more
banners!)
3x10 GGuard: M
3x8 Dryads
5 Wildriders: (m)
2x5 wardancers
Treeman
2x5 waywatchers
Eagle
Still a bowline of sorts (72 shots/turn+ characters and
strangle root), but now has some combat punch from the treeman, and wardancers
to control character buses.
Ben rolled up watch tower, so we mixed up the terrain a
bit. By that I mean took off the dread keep thing, shuffled the forest by it to
balance terrain, and put Skele weathervane tower (minus weathervane) in the
centre of board. House rule-ignore the steps for impassable. Tower gives
600VPs, but still play variable length to keep it interesting.
I get control of the Tower and make the mistake
(hindsight) of putting a unit of dryads in the tower. My thinking was that the
Savages were going to take the tower, but I wanted to force his hand to get
them in there fast (and therefore out of the way). Thinking back, I had nothing
that could shift them, so would have plonked themselves in the tower without
the added incentive. Oh well. I was pretty confident that I could handle the
rest of his army comfortably anyway.
So Deployment:
The rest of my deploying (moving left from pic): The 1/2
unit is a unit of 10 archers, next is 5 wardancers (looking directly at tower),
then the 18 GGuard + lvl4 and BSB (eagle behind), then unit of 10 archers, then
finally Treeman behind fence next to the house squaring off with Ronald.
I wont give a turn by turn break down as no pics to make it fun (and
very conscious of TL, DR).
Basically Turn 1 the Savages charge the tower. I let
re-roll to hit though to stop foot. Dryads managed ONE FRICKIN wound from 16
attacks, and are deleted. Savages+naked black Orc stay in the tower all game.
This was forced a little by me as I kept my bowline close to the tower to
remove any favourable positions to jump out to + the options for stuff to stay
in the tower = naked black orc (dead to shooting), or the trolls (dead to
shooting), and there was never anywhere good to put them. DDiver kills 2 Wildriders.
My turn 1 is awesome! flock of doom takes 2 wounds from
the Lobba (that then explodes and dies) and I IF (surprise surprise) Amber
spear taking a massive 6 wounds from Ronald. I then take another wound from
shooting (HODA). My waywatchers march up to say hello to the rock lobba. The
wildriders race up as well into the forest (normal) to also threaten the weak
flank. my shooting manages to kill the right Mangler (good), but only get 1
wound on the left Mangler (oh no).
Ronald runs away...but not far enough as Mr Treeman
wanders over and 10 s4 strangleroot later = Ronald is finally killed having
survived the MANtillery, and dodged the Axes of the Whitelions.
On the right flank up in the Orc Deployment zone things
are looking scary for me. One waywatcher unit charges the lobba and acts as
bait for the chariots (the trap being a unit of dryads ready to pounce). The
wildriders are charged by the spider riders,
and the Mangler moves a merciful 5 inches missing the wildriders.
However it does mean it is now JUST in the forest = another -1 to hit (and all
glade guard at long range...). Spider rider vs wildrider combat is defined by out
of nowhere super Spider rider armour. I hold the charge and kill in my turn
with one remaining wild rider who hides for rest of game. Shooting at Mangler
only takes 1 fustrating wound. Then chariot box cars the waywatchers (charged
by dryads and killed easily) and Mangler goes through other waywatcher unit (2
dead) and the other unit of dryads (5 dead). remaining dryads then jump on the
mangler as my shooting was needed elsewhere.
Centre of the board was defined by trolls hiding from
flaming archers. the solo troll got a charge on the centre wardancer unit,
broke them for the over run (to get shot to bits as ended up in front of
flaming archers). My other unit of wardancers moved to the right to keep check
on the Orc bus-always staying at 15/16 inches. I eventually got 5 of my flaming
archers with LOS on the trolls, but with -2 to hit. 1 wound later = everything
opens up (conveniently most of it at short range) and all but 2 trolls are
killed. I get the curse on the bus.
Things now looking not so good, so the bus marches up
(under curse) to get some points from something. 7 die from the Dangerous
Terrain test, and warboss takes a wound. Bit of a mistake (looking back) as it
meant my bow curve came into play. wardancers threaten flank charge, dryads
threaten rear charge. Archers open up in close range, eagle moves to block the
charge (and dies nobly) 2 rounds of shooting = all Orcs dead, warboss KB'ed
from waywatchers (not so satisfying as was on 1 wound), and BSB and lvl4 on 1
wound each.
In other news I left the Treeman to clean up the Trolls.
Reasonably confident of this. In previous games I have put treeman into units
of 6 trolls and held/ran them down. Not this time. 2 rounds of fluffed attacks
+ lvl4 dead from sniper spell (burned scroll turn 2 to stop same thing) = of
course treeman fails stubborn test (my fault as forgot to reform archers to
bring BSB into range) and is run down.
Game ends turn 5.
On points the Orcs win by less than the value of the
Treeman (taking into account 600VPS for watchtower), meaning that if my BSB had
been in range (of course I passed the theoretical re-roll) it would have been a
draw. If dryads had not been in tower (and on left flank to support Treeman) I
would have won and possibly also taken the troll points. Would've, should've,
could've. Also if had a 6th turn I would have easily killed the BSB and lvl4,
which would have brought it back to a draw slightly in my favour.
END RESULT OF DAY:
The Orcs take it 2-1. But the 2 wins were not walk overs
and could have easily swung the other way. I was very happy with how everything
performed and I can't see any obvious list changes. The High Elf list will be
going to Call to Arms and the Empire to Skitterleap so watch out! A great last day of gaming
with Ben. In fact, this blog was created to catalogue our games, so a sad day
for that as well. Fear not though, I have a wedding to attend in Melbourne
early next year, so Ben will feature again! (though I will have to swallow my
principles and use one of his "bad guy" armies as I dont think my
partner will let me pack an army for the trip.)
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