Alrighty, so the Horned Gobbo is next weekend and apparently it is the biggest Welly event in AGES, so very, very exciting.
Anywho, the lists have all been submitted, so now "safe" to reveal my evil plan for world domination.
I present to you, my new, re-painted, re-based, re-movement trayed Woodie list of doom!
LVL4: (beasts), Scroll, Stone of Crystal mere, Resplendence of Luminescents
BSB: Asyendi's Bane, Hail of Doom Arrow
18 Glade Guard: Full Command-Flame Banner
6x10 Glade Guard: Musician
4x8 Dryads
2x5 Wildriders: Musicians
2x5 Waywatchers
Eagle
2400
Ambush MSU Woodies with lots of shooting goodness. And for all those "haters" out there who moan that woodies never engage in combat-please note the 6 dedicated combat units :D
I'm still frantically finishing the movement trays, so I'll get some pics of the army up mid week.
Looking forward to the weekend and all the warhammer goodness etc.
Saturday, 28 April 2012
Saturday, 21 April 2012
Two opposing schools of thought
Righty, finally had a chance to really mull over the new Empire armybook (inbetween frantic woodie painting...list submission looming!).
From what my simple mind has comprehended this book is a very different beast to the old one.
With so much choice it is tempting to scatter gun approach list design...however that is not really a good idea for competitive play. However that is not the be all and end all....I want to use my toys!
So based on my initial thoughts I came up with a list like this:
Alector: Walter, Ha, GW, Dhelm, 4++ 314
lvl4: light scroll 225
Engineer 65
BSB: FPA, ench shield, 5pt sword, COC 136
Wpriest: Bsteed, HA, GW, Ratslayerhelm 103
50 Halberds: FC 330
2x5 Free Company Detach 60
10 xbows 90
2x5 Free Company Detach 60
11 ICKnights: FC-steel 340
2 Cannons 240
3 Demigriffs: lance, champ 184
Hurricanum 130
hellblaster 120
2397
Lots of toy goodness. However it plays like a VC list in that the main battle line has to be very tight to make sure everything benefits from the walter and the hurricanum (which looklike a pain in the ass to assemble and paint due to internal visable details!) I am also not convinced that boundspell spam will the all that effective/will draw too many powerdice away from the lvl4-even with +1 power dice.
Also looks far too much like my 7th book list to feel like a real new armybook!
However it has lots of shooty goodness and covers alot of the bases.
So List number#2 is more MSU orientated and draws some inspiration from SmithF's blog-but taking into account the new cool detachment rules.
lvl4: light 200
BSB: FPA, Enchshield, COC, 131
lvl1 (scroll) metal 90
Captasus: FPA, csh, PoStrength, lance 143
Captasus: FPA, sh, lance, pofool 125
40 Halberds: FC 270
10 Freecompany 60
10 Freecompany 60
8 IcKnights: m, sb-flame 230
2 cannons 240
3 DGriffs (lance) 174
3 DGriffs (lance) 174
5 Rknights: m 145
5 Rknights: m 145
5 outriders 105
5 outriders 105
2397
NO RARE!...best ldship is ld8! BOOM
So what is there to like...hmmmm Well for starters it is pretty much all mounted. The 2 units of battle budgies are the serious hammer unit to work off the 5 stubborn units. 1+ as all over the place is very exciting, so is the speed.
Not as exciting a shooting phase as the new book allows (no flaming cannons, no hellblaster... sad face), but enough to get the job done where needed. Also it is nothing like my list with the old book + means I can delay painting the hurricanum and the walter which is a bonus. Getting the ld9 will take some thinking to get an Archlector in the list...possibly drop a unit of rieksguard knights...dunno will require some play testing...AFTER Horned Gobbo.
Anyways-very exciting to have new book and I'm sure these lists will get thrown out the window 1/2 way through the first game and I will then be going on about how amazing chariot spam is...
From what my simple mind has comprehended this book is a very different beast to the old one.
With so much choice it is tempting to scatter gun approach list design...however that is not really a good idea for competitive play. However that is not the be all and end all....I want to use my toys!
So based on my initial thoughts I came up with a list like this:
Alector: Walter, Ha, GW, Dhelm, 4++ 314
lvl4: light scroll 225
Engineer 65
BSB: FPA, ench shield, 5pt sword, COC 136
Wpriest: Bsteed, HA, GW, Ratslayerhelm 103
50 Halberds: FC 330
2x5 Free Company Detach 60
10 xbows 90
2x5 Free Company Detach 60
11 ICKnights: FC-steel 340
2 Cannons 240
3 Demigriffs: lance, champ 184
Hurricanum 130
hellblaster 120
2397
Lots of toy goodness. However it plays like a VC list in that the main battle line has to be very tight to make sure everything benefits from the walter and the hurricanum (which looklike a pain in the ass to assemble and paint due to internal visable details!) I am also not convinced that boundspell spam will the all that effective/will draw too many powerdice away from the lvl4-even with +1 power dice.
Also looks far too much like my 7th book list to feel like a real new armybook!
However it has lots of shooty goodness and covers alot of the bases.
So List number#2 is more MSU orientated and draws some inspiration from SmithF's blog-but taking into account the new cool detachment rules.
lvl4: light 200
BSB: FPA, Enchshield, COC, 131
lvl1 (scroll) metal 90
Captasus: FPA, csh, PoStrength, lance 143
Captasus: FPA, sh, lance, pofool 125
40 Halberds: FC 270
10 Freecompany 60
10 Freecompany 60
8 IcKnights: m, sb-flame 230
2 cannons 240
3 DGriffs (lance) 174
3 DGriffs (lance) 174
5 Rknights: m 145
5 Rknights: m 145
5 outriders 105
5 outriders 105
2397
NO RARE!...best ldship is ld8! BOOM
So what is there to like...hmmmm Well for starters it is pretty much all mounted. The 2 units of battle budgies are the serious hammer unit to work off the 5 stubborn units. 1+ as all over the place is very exciting, so is the speed.
Not as exciting a shooting phase as the new book allows (no flaming cannons, no hellblaster... sad face), but enough to get the job done where needed. Also it is nothing like my list with the old book + means I can delay painting the hurricanum and the walter which is a bonus. Getting the ld9 will take some thinking to get an Archlector in the list...possibly drop a unit of rieksguard knights...dunno will require some play testing...AFTER Horned Gobbo.
Anyways-very exciting to have new book and I'm sure these lists will get thrown out the window 1/2 way through the first game and I will then be going on about how amazing chariot spam is...
Monday, 9 April 2012
Guess I should comment on the new Empire...
So yay new Empire book and what a book, I think. Mine hasn't arrived yet. I put a big advanced order in and JUST missed the cut off date for release day delivery (to store). But thanks to the internetz I have been able to pick up a few things amongst the whining that the book got "Cruddified".
So How the New Book Affects Me:
1) what I have that is now "useless":
For starters Mortars are now meh to say the least. I never used them, so no change here for me. The Rocket battery on the other hand is a bit of a blow. But that's ok as well as I was getting a little bored of the gunline style anyway.
Infantry getting more pricy...Here is my delimma: I can easily convert a unit of halberds into spears (cut off the blade haha), but is the halberd bus the better option? I will really need to read the mage taxi/prayers/choose lore carefully to see if spears are the better option. If Free Company now have la...maybe they are the best. All I do know is that my 30 swords will continue to be left on the shelf-especially now that they have lost i4.
Flagellants....anybody want some? going cheap... These guys are out for the time being. Maybe when Dark Elves get brought back into line with everyone else they will see the light of day. Til then, watch this space
2) Things I now have that are cool
I have lots of knights-most of which have really bad paint jobs. So yay that knights are cool (esp that Inner Circle are core woot!-totally going to put together some blazing Suns Knights with the command bitz), but boo that I have to salvage my current crap. oh well
I have 2 Hell blasters! Now that they have less chance of blowing up than cannons (still keeping 2 in list) and can get bs4 from engineer = I expect to have at least 1 in my lists...possibly 2 if can fit it all in! I've always loved the hellblaster and it is a perfect counter to monsterous infantry/calv and armoured scary stuff (hello mournfangs/necro knights/WoC everything).
I have yet to have an opinion of the stank. It seems to do less-but need to see the malfunction chart. I have just got a plastic one, so shame not to use it. in teh "maybe" box.
I have ordered 1 mage taxi, and 2 boxes of demi griffons + the new waralter (cos it looks cool). Thinking I might need 2nd mage taxi and 3rd box of chicken riders to get 2x4 awesomeness.
Potential lists:
Well, Yet to see the character choices clearly, but it is becoming apparent that my lists will look something like:
(characters-lvl4, BSB, 1 or 2 engineers, Alector possibly on waralter if can fit it in)
core
Bus of state troops
10 xbows (still need to clear chaff and hide mages)
10-12 ICknights and that steel standard thing that every list on net has
Special:
2 cannons
2x4 demigriffons-one with flame banner (16 s5 flaming attacks of anti HPA/Hydra/flank of trolls)
Rare:
hurricane taxi
Hellblaster or 2 if no stank
lazer gun/stank
SO yeah-that's my initial thoughts. A cool book that hasn't had the internetz hate that the tombkings had.
At mo I'm too distracted by my Horned Gobbo woodies list (yes, you read right) and my dragon High Elf list to think/paint Empire anyway.
So How the New Book Affects Me:
1) what I have that is now "useless":
For starters Mortars are now meh to say the least. I never used them, so no change here for me. The Rocket battery on the other hand is a bit of a blow. But that's ok as well as I was getting a little bored of the gunline style anyway.
Infantry getting more pricy...Here is my delimma: I can easily convert a unit of halberds into spears (cut off the blade haha), but is the halberd bus the better option? I will really need to read the mage taxi/prayers/choose lore carefully to see if spears are the better option. If Free Company now have la...maybe they are the best. All I do know is that my 30 swords will continue to be left on the shelf-especially now that they have lost i4.
Flagellants....anybody want some? going cheap... These guys are out for the time being. Maybe when Dark Elves get brought back into line with everyone else they will see the light of day. Til then, watch this space
2) Things I now have that are cool
I have lots of knights-most of which have really bad paint jobs. So yay that knights are cool (esp that Inner Circle are core woot!-totally going to put together some blazing Suns Knights with the command bitz), but boo that I have to salvage my current crap. oh well
I have 2 Hell blasters! Now that they have less chance of blowing up than cannons (still keeping 2 in list) and can get bs4 from engineer = I expect to have at least 1 in my lists...possibly 2 if can fit it all in! I've always loved the hellblaster and it is a perfect counter to monsterous infantry/calv and armoured scary stuff (hello mournfangs/necro knights/WoC everything).
I have yet to have an opinion of the stank. It seems to do less-but need to see the malfunction chart. I have just got a plastic one, so shame not to use it. in teh "maybe" box.
I have ordered 1 mage taxi, and 2 boxes of demi griffons + the new waralter (cos it looks cool). Thinking I might need 2nd mage taxi and 3rd box of chicken riders to get 2x4 awesomeness.
Potential lists:
Well, Yet to see the character choices clearly, but it is becoming apparent that my lists will look something like:
(characters-lvl4, BSB, 1 or 2 engineers, Alector possibly on waralter if can fit it in)
core
Bus of state troops
10 xbows (still need to clear chaff and hide mages)
10-12 ICknights and that steel standard thing that every list on net has
Special:
2 cannons
2x4 demigriffons-one with flame banner (16 s5 flaming attacks of anti HPA/Hydra/flank of trolls)
Rare:
hurricane taxi
Hellblaster or 2 if no stank
lazer gun/stank
SO yeah-that's my initial thoughts. A cool book that hasn't had the internetz hate that the tombkings had.
At mo I'm too distracted by my Horned Gobbo woodies list (yes, you read right) and my dragon High Elf list to think/paint Empire anyway.
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